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Note: Laurie Pettine and Susan Waldman, both
members of Morris County NOW, are quoted below.
Both sides criticize
gay marriage ruling
By PHIL GARBER Managing Editor, Mt. Olive Chronicle,
11/01/2006
Even
long before he became the first openly gay member of the New
York Stock Exchange, Walter Schubert has been passionately
battling for the rights of homosexuals.
Heather Turnbull has been in a committed lesbian
relationship for 15 years and she’s never understood why
anyone would b e concerned over her lifestyle.
On the other side of the white hot topic of gay marriage are
Assembly members Richard Merkt, R-Morris, and Guy Gregg,
R-Morris. To the two legislators, the issue involves a
dangerously activist court and could signal a further
eroding of long-imbedded cultural and religious values.
To Schubert, it is a literal matter of life and death that
gay and lesbian people can be married like heterosexuals.
For Turnbull, how she lives has no bearing on anyone else’s
relationship.
Schubert, Turnbull, Merkt and Gregg were among many who were
concerned for different reasons with last week’s state
Supreme Court ruling that said gay couples deserve the same
legal and economic rights as straight, married people.
Those rights range from family leaves for ill partners to
tax deductions for medical expenses of partners to tax
benefits in real estate bequests.
The court on Wednesday, Oct. 25, stopped short of
sanctioning gay and lesbian “marriage” and ordered the
Legislature to craft legislation within three months to
reflect the court ruling.
Quality Of Life
Schubert, who lives in Mendham, is the founder and treasurer
of the Morris County chapter of a group known as PFLAG,
short for Parents, Families, and Friends of Lesbians and
Gays. The group meets at 7:30 p.m., the second Monday
of each month at the Brookside Community Church.
“At first blush, the reaction (to the court ruling) was
great, that they’ve given us equal rights,” Schubert said.
“But it’s a shallow victory in the sense that the court
balked because they didn’t use the word marriage and that is
the essence of the issue.”
Schubert has been openly gay since 1994 and said he was the
first admittedly gay member of the New York Stock Exchange.
He said he is single but was in a relationship for six years
that might have resulted in marriage if the law had
permitted.
“This is a life and death issue about the quality of life,”
Schubert said. “It is one of the most serious issues
we face today.”
Schubert said it is condescending to label a committed
relationship between same sex people as anything less than
marriage.
“It’s difficult to tell a gay couple who has lived together
for 25 years that their relationship isn’t as vital as that
of a heterosexual couple,” Schubert said.
The genesis of the objections to gay marriage swirl around
homophobia and an anti-feminist philosophy, he said.
“(That philosophy) says a man who loves another man is less
than a man; he’s a woman,” said Schubert.
He said young gay people are often the most tragic victims
of homophobia and legislative or judicial actions like the
failure to recognize gay relationships as marriages.
Its effects are seen in a significantly higher suicide rate
and substance abuse rate among young homosexuals.
“When we label a relationship as not equal to marriage, kids
translate this into feeling they won’t be happy with their
partner,” he said. “To teens, the words say you’re not
welcome and there is something wrong with you.”
Turnbull of Chatham was pleased with the ruling and she said
that in time, the argument will end over use of the word
“marriage” for same sex relationships.
“Overall, it is a very positive step in the right
direction,” said Turnbull. “Generations form now,
people will wonder how we worked ourselves up over
semantics.”
“As a gay person in a long timer, committed relationship, I
will now have much more rights and security,” she said.
Last month, Maureen Bonner and Joyce Morrissey celebrated
their 12th anniversary together and state approval or not,
they plan on enjoying many more years of marriage.
Morrissey and Bonner are members of the Skylands Unitarian
Fellowship in Hackettstown, one of the few religions that
supports gay marriage.
“It’s time they drop the distinctions,” said Morrissey.
“It’s unreal in this day and age to have such distinctions.”
Morrissey said she and Bonner were “shocked” at what they
learned when they met recently with a lawyer experienced in
homosexual issues. Among the revelations, the Liberty
Township couple learned was that if one of them died, the
estate would not automatically revert to the surviving
partner, in the way it does with heterosexual marriages.
They also learned that a surviving partner would have to pay
inheritance taxes for bequests, something that married
straight couples don’t.
“I’ve always called Maureen my partner or my lover,” said
Morrissey. “Calling it a marriage is only important in
context of these other issues. It doesn’t effect our
relationship.”
Bonner said she has never understood why other people would
be concerned about her personal choices in relationships.
She also said heterosexuals should get their own acts in
order before criticizing gay couples.
“I have friends who have been together for 31 years, for 25
years and there are a lot of straight couples who break up a
lot sooner,” she said.
Straight Support
Laurie Pettine of Mendham Township is chair of the
Mothers and Caregivers Economic Rights Task Force for the
Morris County chapter of the National Organization for Women
(NOW). Speaking as a straight woman, Pettine said the
issue of homosexual rights is a basic civil right and that
legal acceptance of gay marriage is critical
“History will show that we need to all stand together,”
Pettine said. “The word marriage is emotional and
spiritual and it has everything to do with identity.”
Pettine and her husband, Tony, have been married for 12
years and have two children. She said homosexual
couples are no different.
“I know many gay couples who are me and Tony,” said Pettine.
“The love is the same, the family is the same.”
Susan Waldman of Randolph Township, a former NOW
chapter president, said she was “ecstatic” about the court
ruling.
She said the ruling clarifies civil rights protections under
the state constitution and that religious opposition should
not be part of the discussion about marriage rights.
“No religion has the right to determine was constitutes
equal protection,” Waldman said.
Sue Harris, vice president of the Gay Activist Alliance of
Morris County, said the justices still didn’t resolve the
issue of gay and lesbian marriage. She said she
expects further legal challenges.
“Hopefully, the Legislature will be as fair minded (as the
court) and will say that gay people can enjoy the same civil
rights as married people,” said Harris, 47, of Dover.
“It is a civil right and has nothing to do with religion.
If it looks like a duck and talks like a duck, why not just
call it a duck?”
Harris said the next major hurdle will be for the
Legislature to vote on legislation to grant equal
protections to transgendered people.
Homosexual Opponent
Kevin Hoffman is a 17-year-old Chester youth who is strongly
against homosexual marriage. He is the son of the Rev.
Scott Hoffman, who is the pastor of the First Congregational
Church of Chester.
Hoffman said people have a choice of being homosexual and
that it should not get approval from the state.
“It’s not something indelibly etched into your genetic
code,” Hoffman said. “I believe homosexuality is wrong
and I don’t think it is something that should be morally or
legally supported by the state.
“I don’t think sexual orientation should be protected,”
Hoffman said. “If they want to bring that up, they
should get a constitutional amendment. I don’t feel it
is on the same level as gender and race.”
The Rev. Paul Ingeneri of Crossroads Community Church in
Flanders, said marriage between same sexes “is a bad thing.”
“It really hurts heterosexual marriages,” he said.
“People should love homosexuals and lesbians the same as
others who were made in the image of God. But I still say
they are wrong.”
The New Jersey ruling has rippled across the nation, adding
energy to debates over same sex marriage in many
Congressional races. President George W. Bush raised
the New Jersey ruling while campaigning last week in the
Midwest and said the “activist” court overreached its
authority.
Merkt, who lives in Randolph Township and represents the
25th District, agreed and wants to impeach the members of
the state Supreme Court for violating the separation between
the two branches of government and dictating to the
Legislature.
Merkt said the court has no right to dictate morality and
that the only way to affirm homosexual marriage would be
through a constitutional amendment.
“We’re tinkering with the law to satisfy the demands of a
vocal minority,” said Gregg of Washington Township and
representative of the 24th District. “The homosexual
community is trying to force its definitions on the
remainder of society. Marriage is a millennia old
cultural and religious tradition and I still understand
marriage in the traditional sense between a man and woman.”
Gregg didn’t mince words when he called the Supreme Court
“the worst Supreme Court in America. There couldn’t be
seven more incompetent people found on any state court.”
While he strongly disagreed with the court decision, Gregg
said it will trigger important discussions on issues that
will prove very difficult to resolve. Among those
issues will be whether to grant equal economic protections
to children who grow up with elderly grandparents or
siblings who live together for many years.
“We have far more children being raised by grandparents than
by lesbians,” said Gregg. “They should all be
addressed and we shouldn’t just focus on one group.”
Assemblywoman Alison Littell McHose, R-Morris, also
represents the 24th District and is a co-prime sponsor of
ACR-134, a proposed constitutional amendment which defines
marriage as being solely between a man and a woman.
She said in a statement that she will continue to oppose any
legislation that allows same-sex couples to marry.”
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